Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. I hope it does not relate to fraction aiming because I don't feel comfortable with that. I just. NO ADJUSTMENT IS NECESSARY unless you have situations like sticky/dirty balls or highly polished balls. He has created several different systems to help people play better. There are literally a zillion possible shots on a 5,000 square inch playing surface. & Mrs. Regardless of whether you like, love or hate the use of the tip for that purpose. There are a lot of 'instructors' selling players on various ideas they claim are magic bullets. If there were 10. . It's great that Stan has been able to get CTE even farther. hal houle. 3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar tables. Back in Greenville SC for a few weeks and I am offering one on one lessons in my shop at my home on a 4 1/2 by 9 Diamond Pool table with 4 3/8 pockets and. . Hal and CTE have been hotly debated for many years. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods. 82 m (5 ft 11 + 1 ⁄ 2 in) Weight: 72 kg (159 lb; 11 st 5 lb) Team information; Current team:. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. I am proficient at ghost ball and contact points, I just was looking into a system to double check my aim if I am uncertain. We spent the morning working on some stroke, stance and footwork tweaks along with Stan sharing a few of his favorite drills. you have nothing to lose. If this is true, there must be something VERY, VERY POSITIVE (AND SOUND) to. Place the bridge hand down with the cue along this line. Also let me know if you disagree with any of the existing. Hal was an eccentric guy who would call you by phone while you were at a table and talk you through his various methods of using CTE while also regaling you of stories about his buddy Ralph Greenleaf. - Ruiary Byrne, CTE discussion group on FB. Hal Houle . Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double. EXACTLY WHAT is the Supposed Phenomenon for Center to Edge 'Aiming'. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Very minimal. The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. points") with either edge of the OB is the simplest way to think of it, but you can use several combinations of the fourths on both balls to. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. What they have figured out works and for some reason that bothers you. I've shot pool for a good portion of my life but never took it to the next level. There's only the center of the OB, the 1/4 or 3/4, and the edge. As has been discussed from time to time (a euphemism for ad nauseam), fractional aiming systems would appear to require an adjustment method for shots that don't fall exactly into the categories of half-ball hit (center-to-edge) or the other general aim guides. Was great to hear his stories. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle showed this to me and it worked. EXACTLY WHAT is the Supposed Phenomenon for Center to Edge 'Aiming'. Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. Looking forward to some positive recollections of Hal and his theories and methods. Still doing it. No, it's because their only target is and has been CTE, Hal Houle, and now Stan which started 18 years ago. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. For those who think he's guilty of false advertising and claims, you're. He also enjoyed keeping tabs on the various players and the members of AzBilliards. Eventually, I became his successor. S. Dec 25, 2014 #7 there is no way to calculate such a thing. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. As you now know, it's as simple as simple can be just like Shishkabob created by Hal Houle decades ago. There were so many that were disrespectful and that is one if the things I despise about AZB. The Sailor's aiming system, which I detail in my book, is to me the only accurate way to aim at a pool ball. Guess the system. Mary Lou Houle 04/11/1930 - 11/21/2022Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. 5 + 2. . . The best person to ask is Hal himself. By: Search Advanced search…Throw 15 balls out on the table and start wherever you wish with a one rail or more bank. . ) CTE originated from Hal Houle. Hal Houle, during his research with aiming came to understand that the spheres we use for playing pool have 360 ticks on their circumferences. Hale played high school basketball at Jordan High School in Sandy, Utah from 1960 to 1962 and won a state championship. I'm told that Hal Houle recognises this and recommends the. Aiming that point to the object ball's center or edge is a surprisingly good starting point. good evening America. Anybody know when that will be?I believe it's correct to say you don't have to "consciously" know where the pocket is, but unconsciously you do. Thank you thank you thank you. side (plus "real thin") no matter how you do it. If anyone would like to see the Contact and Pivot aiming or any of the Hal Houle systems that I know,(small ball, 3 lines, points of light, stick aiming, etc. Started playing in 1934. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. Article posted in: Billiards Forum -> Cue Sports -> Pool Playing Tips -> Aiming and Execution Tutorials. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. Search titles only. . 5 years ago. S. Notable people with the surname include: David Houle (biologist), evolutionary biologist David Houle (futurist) (born 1948), futurist and author Dave Houle,. ) I will be more than happy. Most are good honest requests to learn. Barbara Houle. Literally the week before Hal sought me out I spent several hours on the table with my friend Chris McDaniel working on a. Hey everyone, New guy here. I then listened to them for several more hours while on my route as a mailman today so I could really let it sink into my subconscious. I'm still confused on the exact steps of stepping the cueball. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. The step by step process will be revealed. . I have to say that Hal Houle gave me the aiming perspective that I use about 90 percent of the time. I doubt that Stan's defining and refining will change any of that no matter how exact CTE/Pro One is. By: Search Advanced search…That obviously changes the point of contact along the NISL, which in turn results in a different angle after contact. The best person to ask is Hal himself. It was posted here about 6. S. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. Stan Shuffett. (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. #2. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. Gulfport, Mississippi. In my opinion if you HONESTLY wanted to learn CTE then. From what I know of the Hal Houle point and pivot system, it has to do with actually pivoting the cue itself slightly. E. Hal Houle learned that through CTE a player can quickly tap into the purity of aiming. Search titles only. Stan reveals how the 30 perception was "king" with Hal Houle. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. . . Stan's Truth series illuminates the secrets of CTE that Hal Houle purposefully failed to provide when he first discussed this aiming system. add another ball that can be used with. Stan has worked for years on developing CTE/Pro One and that is. M is aiming by the numbers. . I found a post from 2009 from someone who said Hal Houle told them the guy was an awesome player from out of Cochrans, another was the Ripleys Believe it or not post in one of Bob Byrnes books about the 180 ball run. 5 years ago. I believe Fez, Jimmy, and Ralph Greenleaf, were partners. Search titles only. I'd like to post his name but I. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. as long as the thread stays alive, and you post. Hal was a veteran of the U. For every shot that there is an angle, there is throw on the object ball. Stan originally got the idea from Hal Houle who developed a number of aiming systems over the course of his lifetime. By: Search Advanced search…So perhaps if it bugs you then skipping the threads would be the best thing to do. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. Search titles only. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. Hal Houle, the person I will call the father of all this, had many many many variations and systems. Then carried it over to here when this site was put. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. A CTE/PRO ONE video is coming! The video will present the exact visual nature of CTE. Some people do it automatically while others spend hours and many aiming systems trying to find it. . By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. So no, not playing the victim at all. CTE has been around for decades and misunderstood by most everyone. Yes. I don't care if I change your mind. . he was beat to death, hung out to dry, and CRITIZED by all the nay sayers, who could not understand what he could. pj chgo . every top player uses the same pro aiming system. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:I will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. “Innovator” might be a better descriptor for Hal. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles. May 1, 2023 #254 Dan White said: I think CTE discussion is more interesting that what color chalk do you use or which cue maker screwed somebody over this week, lol. . I have been using it for a few years with very good results. It was posted here about 6. . (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Stan Shuffett refined it and it is called "CTE Pro One". I'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. Stan has spent the last 15 years learning those secrets and has explained them. Search titles only. Please take a look and let me know if you can think of any important terms or phrases not included. pj chgo . I realized. But in my opinion if it wasn't for Hal there wouldn't be CTE. Hal Houle invented it about 7 or 8 DECADES ago and called it Shiskebob. If there were 10 Commandments of CTE this would be the first one. not so good, sorry. Joey: You know, an aiming system where you aim from the center of the cue ball to the edge of the object ball and then pivot and. Aiming ConversationThe time you spent with me practicing in your booth at the tournament was impressionable for me. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. Was great to hear his stories. When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. Began instructing pool in 1945. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. Just that simple!! thanks for the post friend!! mark . Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. . 5" corner pocket (less from closer, more from farther away). As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. You came to aiming systems because of all the discussion and development of systems that Hal developed. He showed me quite a bit about pool. Hal Houle figured it out over 70 years ago. . #1. How it's advertised is as an objective aiming system with zero feel or subconscious involvement. I've been trying to do this exact way how Stan Shuffett explained in his video which I don't have anymore. I don't have the numbers anymore, as they were in a notebook I can. Here is a description of an early version of CTE taught by Hal Houle: For a “thick hit” (a small cut angle, less than about 15°) to the left: Align the cue 1 tip to the right of the CB center through the right edge of the OB. Hal Houle. I am using the ORIGINAL HAL HOULE SYSTEM. His name has been on and off fourms for years. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. I have shown Hal Houle's quarters system to APA 3s and 4s and watched them start making shots way above their skill level. JoeyA, Always glad to share my knowledge with those who sincerely want to learn the game. . Aiming ConversationAs per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. If there is one shot i really do not miss, regardless of pressure, it is the long straight ins. i teach professional aiming systems. . The step by step process will be revealed. JoeyInCali Maker of Joey Bautista Cues. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. Sep 17, 2014 #11The National Billiard Academy is the only school authorized to teach the specialized Aiming Systems of Hal Houle. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. Honestly no matter what "system" you use if you do not have a consistent stroke, a straight stroke, and good fundamentals, the want to get better, and. Stan took it beyond the pivot by making it a true visual system which is Pro1. Still doing it. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. By: Search Advanced search…I'm grateful for you Stan and for Hal houle. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Instruction & Ask the pros. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. Jul 21, 2008. Any system based on a limited number of lines of aim will obviously not cover a wide range of shotsHi guys. as was Hal's in "defining" "backhand english" as a method to return to center ball. I was just wondering what aiming systems are geometrically correct? I've been looking into different aiming systems lately because I think it might be. Instruction & Ask the pros. Stan and Landon Shuffett took an interest in Hal's CTE and they both met and studied with Hal. . . i teach professional aiming systems. I have been playing pool lately with a older gentlemen, who has owned numerous pool rooms over the years in the San Jose area. Jan 16, 2020. Therefore a cue ball has 360 ticks and an object ball has 360 ticks at their respective circumferences. Most errors in a stroke originate in the backstroke, and get amplified on the forward stroke. Let me know which one was your favorite in the comments! I’m really looking forward to making more micro two piece hauls with my friends so if you liked this one make sure to let me know :) My favorite Bikini from this haul was the last one! Check out Dare and Codee!Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. Recognizing those. If you can run all 15, more power to you. In addition to Hal Houle being attacked and his work ridiculed by the anti-CTE saviors for the rest of mankind, the most vilified person in the history of pool is the person so intrigued by Hal's thinking and creations that he wanted to finally solve the riddle, and has, is Stan Shuffett. instead of you nose fitting up into the bridge of the frame - by turning. That's one reason I can't stand the really shitty comments denigrating them and their students. Gold Member. #2. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolI thought I'd throw out a little check I use to very accurately find A or C on the OB, especially the thin ones. Jamie Ferrel - Perfect Aim as reported by Joey A. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. JOEY AGUZIN Feb 17, 2003, 1:13:44 PM to Well, I haven't confirmed this rumor but have it on good authority that a well know and RESPECTED Master BCA instructor will be. S. . It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. These techniques are all referred to as “offset and pivot” systems. Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double. The pro's answer would be 4 + 0 = 4. Joey: You know, an aiming system where you aim from the center of the cue ball to the edge of the object ball and then pivot and. If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. My question is greenleaf won all his championships on a five by ten and mosconis. The blue line is the initial line up method that you would manually have come to with just eying the shot. Also, now in effect, all. Barbara was born in Waterbury and was the. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. But does anyone have a diagram or can at least explain simply what the. showed me his swivel system (similar to Hal's system), light aiming system and shadow aiming. I use it more in practice and do not focus on the pivot when I play. Instruction & Ask the pros. Thankfully, Hal sent a private email inviting me His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. The inventor of CTE was Hal Houle. HOULEHarold G. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. So much easier it's mind numbing. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. All of which are very interesting and Ive been mixing and matching depending on the shot but for easy shots, I still use the ghostball system. If the graph below actually represents the variety of. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. Oh wait, I forgot. Since the book teaches us that a 15 inside and a 30 outside are interchangeable, if there's some lingering doubt which one to utilize, we're on safe ground in shooting it with a 30 outside. Was great to hear his stories. It's reduced so much that it literally becomes point and shoot with no. The following was passed on to me by someone who was there in the loop and a close friend of Hal. Glad you had a chance to see a real pool room. Silver Member. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. Search titles only. Let me know which one was your favorite in the comments! I’m really looking forward to making more micro two piece hauls with my friends so if you liked this one make sure to let me know :) My favorite Bikini from this haul was the last one! Check out Dare and Codee!That was Hal Houle's claim - but it actually takes about 50 different cut angles just to make a spot shot into a 4. you have nothing to lose. So, since I'm in an endless training period, I had to have one. points") with either edge of the OB is the simplest way to think of it, but you can use several combinations of the fourths on both balls to. Houle is a surname. Any videos of Jimmy from around this period, included the video cited in this thread, clearly show Jimmy pivoting into center ball from. Hal understood what they were doing in order to connect with the angles that lead to pockets even if they had no clue. TATE AzB Gold Mensch. The aiming forum was created to a large part for PJ. Hal Houle showed this to me and it worked. AND ACCURATE. Without having tried this method on the table I want to acknowledge the spirit of innovation that exists that motivates players to run with concept of. Think About It. He is a rather famous pool instructor who teaches pool to professional pool players and amateurs alike. Perfect Aim, CTE, TOI, Hal Houle's systems come to mind. Apparently he had many aiming systems. Jul 15, 2008 #8 Bval Use The Aiming System That Efren Reyes Uses. Most of the people that have learned one or more of his systems do not give out much info, as he did/does not want them. . If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. I hope it does not relate to fraction aiming because I don't feel comfortable with that. B. Cherished mother of. When you’re two steps ahead, you’re a crackpot. After all, his wife Sonny says her husband spent the better part of a decade in the garage working on diagrams and other pool-related drawings. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. By: Search Advanced search…This is CTE video of the day #2 (48) - CTE CONTROVERSY Regulation 2 1/4" balls being shot into 2 1/2" pockets with reducers. :grin-square: Perhaps the video will be large enough to honor Hal Houle for what he created. And I heard. it can be the same for us as students. There is no way in this universe that Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett and the countless other instructors teaching objective aiming methods created non-working purely psychological mind tricks just to mess with your sense of order. The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system. . . . Harold G. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods of ball-pocketing (without the guesswork of ghost ball or other traditional methods. As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. Examples include Hal Houle’s 3angle system- , CTE, and SAM. I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. I am so glad Hal is finally starting to get some if the respect he do rightfully deserves. There are many Great's with completely different strokes and "aiming" methods. . Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. It occurred to me the newer members might not know who Hal Houle was. Whenever someone asks me how long I’ve been playing, I always say, "Since I met Hal. This is an EXACT aim. He has posted his phone number -- the new one in Pennsylvania (I think). He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. If you would like a copy, email me at The answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. " Hal's greatest joy was. Jul 16, 2008 #9 Hal, I've heard you are open to describe your aiming system on the phone but don't go away with it written. Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. It's just a fact of life that no matter what you do there are people who find issue with it. The 15 - 30 - and 45. systems that he currently endorses. By: Search Advanced search…Ron V. It has NEVER been enforced on those members who have free reign to say whatever they want negatively or disparagingly about Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett, CTE, Shishkabob, and students and usersJUST FINISHED reading mosconis autobiography for the tenth time. . )From the very first ball i hit with Hal Houle on the other end of the phone . Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. As one of the 1st Hooligans from RSB, I thank you very much for the book and thousands of hours of. " Hal's greatest joy was. Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. It is a Small World After all. You can go past center to get to outside . People think they know more than they do - and they act like cyber bullies. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. 0. What the old gent said to me is pretty much what Terry is saying in his video. By: Search Advanced search…Fellow CTE Enthusiasts, If I could get an answer to this one hurdle in my CTE learning journey I would be thrilled. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle may've been the first to use the word "visual" as a noun relating to pool shots, just as he or Stan was probably the first to use the words "visual perception" in relation to visualizing pool shots. take the time go to the table and try it someone suggested. 5 years ago. You came to aiming systems because of all the discussion and development of systems that Hal developed. He certainly was a tireless educator and a nice man. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. CTE PRO. I can unabashedly say that I stole the Sailor's system en toto and reproduced it in my book. Hal Houle definitely made life easier for the aiming process of pocketing balls. I watched a great match between Cowboy Jimmy Moore and Wimpy Luther Lassiter that was on Classic ESPN the other day. It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. . They're very similar with the exception of starting out with an inside of center alignment to parts of the OB and then pivoting back to CCB with Shish. 484 623 4144" I must admit I was a little nervous calling him out of the blue to talk about one of the most highly controversial and heated topics that has ever been discussed on the AZbilliards website--Aiming one sphere to another sphere the same way but at different distances and getting the same consistent result. . I'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. What is the Supposed Phenomenon of Center to Edge Aiming? This thread is an attempt to garner for ALL concerned. and Santos. I have played around with CTE for ~ 2 years. Yeah, I know - I know, if Hal did something it MUST be bogus and witchcraft. Hal Houle said that there are only 3 angles that are important. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolSearch titles only. Joey: But what is your system to aim? Efren: I aim for pocket. Cherished mother of. I think Hal's latest way of describing it, the "3-point" version where. Well, It looks like the moderators moved the "How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS)" thread to the "Aiming Conversation" forum. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. Takes his three angles and makes aiming easier to teach. Hal Houle and I talked many times over the past few years and I regret not having the urge to learn more about CTE from him. By: Search Advanced search…23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called Rec.